Chris Wallace: Trump Rhetoric – The Frankly Unthinkable – Bush’s Fine Policy Details

UPDATE: 1:59 pm CT: Much grousing about Trump and the fact that he did not initiate a discussion about a Muslim database. My point in the original post below, and as the title indicates, is that Trump has said sometimes, as a nation, we must “do the unthinkable.” If Trump was speaking about doing the “unthinkable” as only pertaining to a border wall, I can’t confirm it. His quotes are under heads lines referring to the Paris attacks:

“We’re going to have to do things that we never did before. And some people are going to be upset about it, but I think that now everybody is feeling that security is going to rule,” Trump said. “And certain things will be done that we never thought would happen in this country in terms of information and learning about the enemy. And so we’re going to have to do certain things that were frankly unthinkable a year ago.” Source: WaPo

For the record, here is the exact Trump exchange with a reporter:

“Should there be a database system here that tracks the Muslims in this country?” he asked.

Trump’s response: “There should be a lot of systems. Beyond databases, I mean, there should be a lot of systems. And today you can do it. But right now we have to have a border, we have to have strength, we have to have a wall. And we cannot let what is happening to this country happen.”

The dialogue continued:

 

NBC:

Is that something your White House would like to implement?

Trump: I would certainly implement that. Absolutely.

NBC: What do you think the effect of that would be? How would that work?

Trump: It would stop people from coming in illegally. We have to stop people form coming in illegally.

NBC: But Muslims specifically? How would you get them registered?

Trump: It would be just good management. What you have to do is good management procedures. And we can do that.

NBC: Do you go to mosques and sign people up?

Trump: Different places. You sign them up at different places. But it’s all about management. Our country has no management.

NBC: Would they have to legally be in this database?

Trump: They have to be. The key is people can come to the country, but they have to come in legally.

If Trump was asked specifically and only about our physical borders, I can’t hear it on the video, but it doesn’t matter, he did support a Muslim database, and I understand that thinking.

Our Visa program and current immigration law should be the only database we need, but we are a failed government –– not accidentally so.

Below begins my original post:

Chris Wallace was on Fox this morning with Martha MacCallum (I think it was Martha). The discussion was Trump, who said after the Paris attacks, he would create a database to track Muslims in the U.S. Bush, now , is calling for a military build-up, something Trump has advocated since he announced his campaign. In fact, every Republican candidate has been in favor of rebuilding the military Obama has demolished.

Jeb Bush:

Specifically, Mr. Bush is calling for 40,000 new Army troops, 4,000 more Marines and new submarines and aircraft. By making a concrete commitment to increasing military spending and troop levels,. . . .

The above is what Chris Wallace refers to as “fine policy details.” Here’s more from Bush:

The answer to this is not to ban people from coming,” Bush said Tuesday in an interview with Mark Halperin and John Heilemann for Bloomberg Politics’ With All Due Respect. “The answer is to lead, to resolve the problem in Syria. Source 

Donald Trump:

. . . the Washington Post noted, “Only Trump is willing to say what all the others, particularly the puny politicians, won’t say: we may have to resort to the ‘frankly unthinkable.’ Source: NYMag

The above is a portion of what Wallace refers to as Trumps “rhetoric.”

Long after a nearly forgotten World War II, some Americans are still livid about the internment of the Japanese in the U.S., due to natural fears that they remained loyal to their home country. Think of that astonishing event: Japanese planes bombing our Navy at Pearl Harbor. We lost 2,400+ souls serving their country in that attack and we were expected not to fear some of the Japanese on American soil? The issue, even today, isn’t that we should or should not have that fear. The issue is that we did and do have that fear, because it was and is natural to do so.

And so, WWII went forward with U.S. involvement. Unprepared we were at that time, but we did the most we could do, from beginning to the end. At times, what we were prepared to do wasn’t enough. As the war went on, the industry of the American people made certain that what we were prepared to do was enough.

” Yes, it’s unfortunate, but sometimes “we have to resort to the ‘frankly unthinkable.’ ~ Donald Trump

The Daley Gator has a post quoting and discussing an article by Andrew McCarthy (much more here):

Refugee ‘Religious Test’ Is ‘Shameful’ And ‘Not American’… Except That Federal Law Requires It – Andrew C. McCarthy

In his latest harangue against Senator Ted Cruz (R., Texas) and other Americans opposed to his insistence on continuing to import thousands of Muslim refugees from Syria and other parts of the jihad-ravaged Middle East, Obama declaimed:
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When I hear political leaders suggesting that there would be a religious test for which a person who’s fleeing from a war-torn country is admitted… that’s shameful… That’s not American. That’s not who we are. We don’t have religious tests to our compassion.

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Really? Under federal law, the executive branch is expressly required to take religion into account in determining who is granted asylum. Under the provision governing asylum (section 1158 of Title 8, U.S. Code), an alien applying for admission . . .
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Moreover, to qualify for asylum in the United States, the applicant must be a “refugee” as defined by federal law. That definition (set forth in Section 1101(a)(42)(A) of Title , U.S. Code) also requires the executive branch to take account of the alien’s religion:
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The term “refugee” means (A) any person who is outside any country of such person’s nationality… and who is unable or unwilling to return to… that country because of persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution on account of… religion [among other things]… [.]

Moreover, to qualify for asylum in the United States, the applicant must be a “refugee” as defined by federal law. That definition (set forth in Section 1101(a)(42)(A) of Title , U.S. Code) also requires the executive branch to take account of the alien’s religion:
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The term “refugee” means (A) any person who is outside any country of such person’s nationality… and who is unable or unwilling to return to… that country because of persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution on account of… religion [among other things]… [.]

 

We are a failed government, and have been for decades. Our visa program should be keeping us safe. Bureaucrats are not held accountable. We have laws, we have rules, under the Constitution. Put former military in charge of issuing and tracking visas, and that mess will be put in order quickly.

Americans are resilient. We won’t let ISIS or al Qaeda stop us, but If we are not doing the most that we can do to allow us to go about our lives without fear of going to a movie, or to the mall, or a football game, then we aren’t doing enough. Sometimes we must do the unthinkable.

 

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  • Marino

    Excellent article. Obummer is so unqualified, Bush is not very intelligent and is led on some issues by his mexican wife. Trump is correct: ‘sometimes we have to resort to the unthinkable.’ The time is NOW!

  • cryandhowl

    I detect a distortion of what Trump said and what he was actually talking about. I believe HE was actually talking about the ‘wall’ and keeping illegals from coming into the country. The Washington Post lumped the Muslim “database” thing in with Trump’s desire to keep illegals out and keeping the nation safe. Apparently we wasn’t listening to some set-up question by a reporter and responded to something on his mind. When questioned about it again he said, “I don’t know what you’re talking about.” Here is a little copy and paste from the Post …

    “What? Why are you asking me that question?” Trump said to one reporter following a rally. Trump then ignored a wave of follow-up questions.

    “Where did you hear that?” he said to another reporter. “I don’t know where you heard that.”

    I think it’s an attempt to sink his campaign and it didn’t happen the way it’s being reported.
    I think I’ll post my comment at ol’ C & H.
    Thanks Maggie!

    • cryandhowl, thanks for that, and I’m sure you’re right. If he was talking about the border wall, he’s spot on. Also spot-on with “frankly, doing the unthinkable” when necessary. Did I mention that Wallace is a putz?

      • cryandhowl

        I don’t think you mentioned it … but I agree with you 100% dear friend!

    • cryandhowl, another thought, or expanding on what I was trying to say in my article. If government worked properly, we’d already have the only database we need: visas and legal immigration.

      • cryandhowl

        Excellent point Maggie!

  • Meg

    Trump was talking about the wall, not about the database. The liberal media is spreading a lie. They need to listen to the interview again.

    • Meg, I have updated the post, and added the full quotations. I think he was not ONLY talking about the wall, but I support him –– this perhaps is the time to think about “doing the impossible,” and my other point –– the only database we should need is our Visa Program and current, legal immigration law, but the government has failed us, so people must be documented in some way. “Undocumented” has been one of the most used words over the past years. Being “undocumented” has been something to be championed. I’m sick of it.