A technician (now ex-technician) for StemExpress explains what it was to like to use scissors to cut through the face of a baby –– a baby whose heart was beating –– to get to the brain, and then stuff the too-big baby into a too-small biohazard jar. The baby’s brain was ‘superior product.’ It’s always harvest time at Planned Parenthood where 898 abortions were performed EVERY DAY in 2014. That’s 37 abortions every hour, every day, 365 days a year 24/7, one about every 90 seconds, every day, 365 days a year. The total number of abortions was 327,653. Some people don’t have time to watch a ten minute video (see below), but it doesn’t take ten minutes to skim the transcript.
Dr. Deborah Nucatola, Senior Director of Medical Services, Planned Parenthood Federation of America:
NUCATOLA: For example, so I had eight cases yesterday, and I knew exactly what we needed. Then I kind of looked at the list and I said, alright, this 17 weeker has 8 Iams [not sure of this]. So I knew which were the cases that were probably more likely to yield what we needed, and I made my decisions according to that too. So, it’s worth having a huddle at the beginning of the day, and that’s what I do.
Holly O’Donnell, Ex-Procurement Technician, StemExpress, LLC:
O’DONNELL: I never did but I think I witnessed some of
the other technicians work with the doctors. I remember, I was on my day off and I went on my laptop and [inaudible] popped up, and they were working and I saw a message saying that a doctor had, uh, aborted a fully intact fetus –– fully intact, and they, StemExpress, was sending it straight to the lab.
Perrin Larton, Procurement Manager, Advanced BioScience Resources:
LARTON: I literally have had women come in and go in the OR and they’re back out in 3 minutes, and so I thought, ‘What’s going on?’ Oh yeah, the fetus was already in the vaginal canal whenever we put her in the stirrups it just fell out.
Melissa Farrell, Director of Research Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast:
FARRELL: Yeah, and so if we alter our process, and we are able to obtain intact fetal cadavers, then we can make it part of the budget, that any dissections are this, and splitting the specimens into different shipments is this, I mean that’s –– it’s all just a matter of line items
O’DONNELL: Usually they want both hemispheres intact with the brain stem. If that doesn’t happen, they’ll take 80 percent intact, or 70 percent intact. You have to contact them and see if that will be okay.
NUCATOLA: The kind of rate limiting step of the procedure is calvarium. Calvarium, the head, is usually the biggest part. Most of the other stuff can come out intact. It’s very rare to have a patient that doesn’t have enough dilation to evacuate. All the other parts intact. And with the calvarium [head], in general some people will actually try to change the presentation [of the fetus] so that it’s not vertex [head first], because when it’s vertex [head-first] presentation you never have enough dilation. At the beginning of the case, unless you have a real, huge amount of dilation to deliver an intact calvarium [head]. So if you do it starting from the breech [feet-first] presentation, there’s dilation that happens as the case moves on, and often, the last step, you can evacuate an intact calvarium [head] at the end. So, I mean, there are certainly steps that can be taken to try to ensure…Under ultra-sound guidance they can just change the presentation.
O’DONNELL: I was training just in Alameda, and had been doing it for just a few weeks, and I kind of knew what I was doing, and kind of not, and I was really busy, and one of the doctors came in, and she looked really frustrated and the medical assistants were with her, and I was listening to see what was going on, and the doctor said if she can’t calm down, I can’t do the abortion, and I can’t medicate her –– something like that. She was just distraught.
Tram Nguyen, Ambulatory surgery Center Director, Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast:
NGUYEN: The other, the other thing that plays a tremendous part in this all, is the dilation that you’ve obtained, and also, whether, how, for lack of a better word, how cooperative the patient is during the procedure.
O’DONNELL: Finally, the woman, she calmed down, and the doctor went in to perform the abortion. It takes a little while, and I’m in the hallway, I see the jar come out, goes into the path lab, and [maybe Jessica], I can hear, is preparing it. Rinsing out the jar, rinsing out linen, the wrapping that catches it, dumping it into the strainer, rinsing it off, putting water the [pie or petri] dish, and getting it ready for the doctor, so then I hear her calling, ‘hey Holly, come over here. I want you to see something kinda cool. It’s kinda neat, so I’m over here, and the moment I see it, I’m just flabbergasted. This is the gestated fetus, and closest thing to a baby I’ve ever seen. She’s like, okay, I want to show you something. She has one of her instruments, and she just taps the heart and it starts beating. I’m sitting here, and I’m looking at this fetus, and it’s heart is beating, and I don’t know what to think.
INTERVIEWER: Is there still circulation in the heart, once you isolate it?
Dr. Ben Van Handel, Executive Director, Novogenix Laboratories, LLC:
VAN HANDEL: So, you know there are times when after the procedure is done that the heart actually is still beating.
LARTON: They induce fetal demise at about 20 weeks –– 18 to 20 weeks, and so they inject digoxin into the fetus, so…
INTERVIEWER: Right, right. I was actually going to ask about digoxin, because I wanted to make sure there is no digoxin…
LARTON: No, no.
NUCATOLA: Providers that use digoxin use it for one of two reasons. There is a group of people who just use it so that they have no risk of violating the Federal Abortion Ban, which is if you induce the demise before you do the procedure, nobody’s going to say you did a [makes the quote sign with her fingers] live, whatever the federal government calls it, partial birth abortion.
David Daleiden, Project for the Center for Medical Progress:
Whenever you’re talking about a fetus in the context of fetal tissue procurement, there are situations where no feticide, like the [inaudible] no potassium chloride, no chemical like that can be used to kill the fetus before hand, because that poisons the organs and the tissues, so in that case, prima facia evidence in born-alive-infant cases.
O’DONNELL: You know why that’s happening [I think this is referring to the heart beating]? I knew why it was happening because an electrical current, the nodes were still firing, and I don’t know if that constitutes ‘technically dead,’ or it’s alive. It had a face. It wasn’t completely torn up, and its nose was very pronounced. It had eyelids and its mouth was pronounced, and then, since the fetus was so intact, she said, well, okay, this is a really good fetus and it looks like we can procure a lot from it. Um, we’re going to procure a brain, so the moment I heard that, that meant we’re going to have to cut the head open, we’re going to have to cut the head open. ‘So, okay, so what you do is you go through the face.’ I’m thinking, no, don’t do this, and she takes the scissors and she makes a small incision right here [O’Donnell points to her chin], and goes, I would say maybe a little through the mouth. She says, ‘okay, can you go the rest of the way,’ and I’m like…yes. And I didn’t want to do this. So she gave me the scissors and told me that I had to cut down the middle of the face, and I can’t even, like, describe what that feels like. And I remember picking it up going through finishing the rest of the face, and [inaudible –– maybe ‘Jessica’] picking up the brain and putting it in the container with the media, and para-filming it. And she left and she said ‘okay, you can clean it up,’ and I’m just sitting there, like, what did I just do, and I was that moment that I knew I couldn’t work for the company any more. That was still, even it’s gonna be good, if that had been the cure for some kind of disease, even if it was, I wished –– I still wouldn’t have done it. I don’t want to be that person, and I remember picking –– it was a male –– picking him up with the gloves –– it was too heavy, the pie dish –– he was too big, and I could, like take it and put it in the strainer, like I –– I couldn’t. It was just too big. And I opened the biohazard container, and it’s almost full, like it’s almost full. I’m holding him in my hands, and I thought, oh my God, what am I doing, and I take him, I put him in and I remember he got stuck on the lid, and it turned around and his buttocks was in the air and his two feet were, like, dangling out, and I remember having to pick each one of his feet up and put them in the container and close the lid. That was the hardest experience I’ve had there.
I remember holding that fetus in my hands, when everybody else was busy, and started crying and open the lid and put it back in. It’s just really hard knowing that you’re only person who’s every going to hold that baby. It’s weird, because I always think of all these scenarios that could happen, like what I held in my hands could have grown up to be –– and I always think about things like that, like this could be a lawyer, this could be a firefighter, this, this could be the next president. Like I wonder what, cause you can tell what sex sometimes, I wonder if I wonder at age three, if you know, she would like to color, or things like that. I wonder what it would look like, her mom or her dad? Things like that, I think it’s a waste of life. It’s sad that so many people view it like a mistake. It’s not. I mean, life isn’t a mistake. Getting pregnant –– it can be an accident, but it’s not a mistake.
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