Joe Arpaio: When a Deportation Isn’t a Deportation: Lies, Damned Lies & Statistics

The Obama administration is claiming they have deported 2 million illegals and are under pressure to slow-down that tough Obama policy. Arizona’s Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio disputes these numbers, as do other reliable sources. Arpaio says he conducted a survey of 1200 illegals in his own jails. One third of those 1200 were released by ICE with past criminal convictions — and they are rotating through his country’s jails six, seven, eight times. You’ll hear Arpaio repeatedly mention ICE (Immigrations and Customs Enforcement). Remember that ICE begged Republicans to meet with them before agreeing to anything in the U.S. Senate amnesty legislation. It’s the orders coming down from leadership at ICE and the Department of Homeland Security that are lawlessly failing the people. If the Senate’s amnesty/immigration-invasion legislation becomes law, ICE will be placed under the purview of the Department of Justice (do you feel a shiver down your spine? I know you do).


Under Bush, those persons caught at the border — crossing the border and turned back — were not considered “deported,” but under the Obama administration, that’s where his claims of deportations attempt to bolster him. You’ll see in the material below the video (and in the video) that the issue is low deportations from the “interior,” — those already here, those who made it across and disappeared into the citizenry, into someone’s cellar, into a homeless shelter, or into a jail.

Below the transcript and the video, see the real numbers, including the lowest deportations since 1973.

Transcript of the video (below) of Neal Cavuto’s interview with Arizona, Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio:

CAVUTO: …2 million illegal immigrants deported since President

Neal Cavuto

Neal Cavuto

Obama took office. That’s what the White House is saying but the man who they call America’s toughest sheriff, says ‘not so fast.’ The numbers don’t jive with him. Now Joe Arpaio, Maricopa County, has accused the Obama administration of actually cooking the books. Sheriff, you don’t believe this. Why not?

ARPAIO: I always had a feeling that a lot of these people we put on hold with ICE, really are not being deported. I did a survey the last three months of over 1200 illegal aliens in our jails. One-third, or about 400 that were released in past had criminal records and they’re still being booked back into the jail — six, seven, eight times, and they keep coming back. How come they’re not deported? They’re high-level violators.

CAVUTO: Do you know at what point the snapshot is taken, to say, all right, we’ve deported you or sent you back. It could be just in the rounding-up process and they count that? Or in fact, they haven’t gone back. They’ve just been rounded-up. Right?

ARPAIO: No. They’re rounded up. They’re booked into my jails on criminal violations. We put holds on them. They’re turned over to ICE. How come they keep coming back for the last several years? They should be back where they came from, or they’re being let out of the back door. You can’t have it both ways.

CAVUTO: I’m trying to get to the 2 million figure, and the best I can figure is, they count them as sent back if they’re in jails like yours, and they haven’t formally been deported. That’s the only way I can come up with the 2 million figure, and that’s at best, probably specious.

ARPAIO: No. According to the testimony of the new Homeland Security guy, he admitted that when they come across the border they just dump them back, but they claim they’re deportations. When Bush — they never included them in the deportation statistics.If you talk about the Interior of the U.S. which is enforced by ICE, when you take the 11 million, allegedly to be here, then ICE has locked up one percent. There’s smoke and mirrors going on, and it has been going on.

CAVUTO: I’d be curious to know what you thought about what the president said the other day about those Hispanics who are signing up for healthcare — they needn’t worry about relatives who might or might not be technical citizens of this country, I’m paraphrasing it, probably getting the gist of it wrong, but I think the end result was, they need not worry about INS or immigration officials looking at that when getting relatives signed up for health care. What do you think about that?

ARPAIO: He wants a more humane way of deporting those here in our

Sheriff Joe Arpaio

Sheriff Joe Arpaio

country illegally. He ought to be concerned more on those who have committed criminal, serious violations, criminal crimes, are deported. I’ll bet you many of them are let out the back door. They have never been deported. They keep coming back to the jail on the violations of the law. My deputies and law enforcement are on the streets, risking their lives to lock these people up, yet they keep coming back. They should go back where they came from, or in jail. Period.

CAVUTO: So they leave your jail. You give them to ICE and invariably, you see them again and again and again. How is that possible? It’s tough enough to cross the border, you would think, but to do so repeatedly, really kinda stretches the mind.

ARPAIO: Yeah, they keep coming back. They’re here illegally. You’d think the second time, at least, they should be deported or doing prison time.

CAVUTO: Well, what is ICE telling you Sheriff, when it happens and you tell them,’ look guys, this is the third, fourth time this has happened. Come on.’

ARPAIO: No, ICE just put out a response to my press release with the typical stuff that they took away my authority in the jail, and they go on statistics and they never address the reason as to why are these illegal aliens that come back with child molestation, burglary, all these serious crimes. They never address that as to why they keep coming back to jail.

Neal Cavuto Interview with Sheriff Joe Arpaio – 2 Million Illegals Have Not Been Deported (video)

March 14, 2014: Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson acknowledged Tuesday that his department’s deportation numbers are now mostly made up of illegal immigrants caught at the border, not just those from the interior, which means they can’t be compared one-to-one with deportations under President Bush or other prior administrations…

But Republican critics have argued those deportation numbers are artificially inflated because more than half of those being deported were new arrivals, caught at the border by the U.S. Border Patrol. Previous administrations primarily counted only those caught in the interior of the U.S. by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

“Under the Obama administration, more than half of those removals that were attributed to ICE are actually a result of Border Patrol arrests that wouldn’t have been counted in prior administrations,” said Rep. John Culberson, Texas Republican.

“Correct,” Mr. Johnson confirmed.

That would mean that in a one-to-one comparison with the final years of the Bush administration, deportations of those same people under Mr. Obama had actually fallen, according to immigration analysts who have studied the data.

In 2013, ICE was responsible for about 133,000 of the 368,000 immigrants removed. The Washington Times calculated that meant a less than 1 percent risk of an illegal immigrant living in the interior of the U.S. being deported.

Said another way (read the entire report at Numbers USA:

President Obama announced that DHS would review options for making immigration enforcement “more humane.” Translation: they’ll find more ways to ignore the law and make illegal aliens comfortable while the comprehensive amnesty alliance pursues House Republican hold-outs.

About two-thirds of removals last year were illegal aliens apprehended crossing the border, not in the interior U.S. ICE reported that “98 percent of the agency’s total removals were convicted criminals, recent border crossers, illegal re-entrants or those previously removed by ICE.” And a full 82 percent of interior removals in 2013 were convicted criminals.

Said yet another way, Center for Immigration Studies October 2013 (read more here):

The number of deportations resulting from interior enforcement by ICE declined by 19 percent from 2011 to 2012, and is on track to decline another 22 percent in 2013.

In 2012, the year the Obama administration claimed to break enforcement records, more than one-half of removals attributed to ICE were the result of Border Patrol arrests that would never have been counted as a removal in prior years. In 2008, under the Bush administration, only one-third of removals were from Border Patrol arrests.

Total deportations in 2011, the latest year for which complete numbers are available, numbered 715,495 – the lowest level since 1973. The highest number of deportations on record was in 2000, under the Clinton administration, when 1,864,343 aliens were deported.

When claiming record levels of enforcement, the Obama administration appears to count only removals, which are just one form of deportation, and only a partial measure of enforcement. Beginning in 2011, a shift of some of the routine Border Patrol case load to ICE enabled the administration to count an artificially high number of removals.

Homeland Security Investigations (HSI), the division of ICE that is responsible for work site enforcement, combating transnational gangs, overstay enforcement, anti-smuggling and trafficking activity, and busting document and identity theft rings, now contributes very little to immigration enforcement. In 2013 HSI has produced only four percent of ICE deportations, making just a few thousand arrests per year throughout the entire country.

ICE is doing less enforcement with more resources. Despite reporting more encounters in 2013 than 2012, ICE agents pursued deportation of 20 percent fewer aliens this year than last.

Enforcement activity declined in every ICE field office from 2011 to 2013, with the biggest declines in the Atlanta, Salt Lake City, Washington DC/Virginia, and Houston field offices.

Criminal alien arrests declined by 11 percent from 2012 to 2013, despite the completion of the Secure Communities program, which generates more referrals of arrested aliens than ever before. ICE agents took a pass on hundreds of thousands of aliens who were arrested by local authorities in those years.

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