Paul Ryan as a Catholic Sees it His Place to Un-Exploit Illegals

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) as a Catholic, sees it is his place to make sure illegals are not a “permanent” underclass exploited by you and me. This information comes from Democrat Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill) who says he had the conversation with Ryan in November 2012 shortly after the Romney-Ryan ticket lost the Republican presidential bid for us. Gutierrez is on the House Gang of 7. You may remember the House originally had a Gang of 8  but Rep. Raul Labrador (R-ID) walked away from the negotiations and is working on his own bill. Gutierrez recounts the November discussion when Ryan approached him:

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“You’re a Catholic; I’m a Catholic; we cannot have a permanent underclass of Americans exploited in America,” Ryan told Gutierrez, according to the Democrat’s recollection of the November discussion. Source: Washington Post

Ryan endorsed the House Gang of 7 the day after Labrador dropped out:

A bipartisan group negotiating a House immigration bill earned a key endorsement Thursday from Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), a day after one of its eight core members quit the effort because of a dispute over healthcare policy.

Labrador, a former immigration attorney, informed his colleagues on Wednesday that he was leaving the group because he was not satisfied that taxpayers would not have to foot the bill for immigrants in the country illegally in their legislation. Source: The Hill

It’s unfortunate that Ryan’s Catholic conscience didn’t prompt him to attack the Mexico City policy, which Obama re-instated the day after he was sworn in. The Mexico City Policy allows U.S. aid to be used for abortions throughout the globe if that country wants to use the money in that way.

I don’t remember a single time Ryan advocated for fixing the Visa procedure. A Visa-fix would solve many future problems, but…oh well.

UPDATE 6/11/13 – by James Simpson at WND: 

Boehner has enlisted former Republican VP candidate Ryan to promote the House plan. Ryan and the Republicans are working with some far-left House Democrats, including Rep. Luis Gutierrez, a former member of the Marxist-Leninist Puerto Rican Socialist Party, and Xavier Becerra, both members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus and both longtime amnesty activists.

In an interview following Senate passage of the Gang of Eight bill, Fox News’ Sean Hannity pounded Ryan on the issue of border security:

HANNITY: So, my sources have been telling me, Congressman, that you guys are considering a five-year temporary legal status, and then [if] the border security measure is not met in five years, that that would be revoked.

RYAN: That’s right. That’s right.

Read more about Luis Guiterrez at New Zeal: The Democratic Socialists American loved his entry into Congess.


Ryan wants to be under-the-radar on this issue. Just like the majority of politicians, no leadership from Ryan – no standing up publicy for what he believes is right, no risking derision by Conservatives – just hiding around the corner waiting for a chance to ambush the Constitution.


  • As a Catholic I wonder whether Paul Ryan is getting pressure from bishops on this issue? On the other hand as a Catholic I can understand him saying that. But the U.S. has laws and the first step is enforce the immigration laws already on the books, fix the visa procedure as you stated above, and secure the border.

    We can see every human being with compassion, love them, help them when they are in need and that is what the Church is saying but the Catholic Catechism even states that nations have a right to boundaries, enforce their laws, and that immigrants are obligated to respect a nation’s laws.

    • Teresa, think of the sanctuary churches across the country – breaking the law and defying anything to be done about it. We are told to render unto Caesar what is his. None of this is theirs. We take them into our hospitals, we let them come and drop their babies, and we bequeath every right upon that child. The obligations of aliens are ignored just as Congress has ignored it’s sworn duties and obligations.

  • OldmanRick

    Gutierrez is a Marxist politico and Paul Ryan is a delusional one. For one to support others, one must first be able to support himself. This even applies to society. Before society can take on saving and supporting those less fortunate, it must first be economically sound to absorb the group of economically deprived. If not, both fail.

    • Oldman Rick – so right! Very telling…Guiterrez was endorsed by the DSA.

  • pa

    “You’re a Catholic; I’m a Catholic; we cannot have a permanent underclass of Americans exploited in America,” Ryan told Gutierrez …

    Um, here’s the thing: illegals AIN’T Americans. Our politicians surely do have a problem recognizing, much less acknowledging, the difference between citizens and non-citizens.

    • pa, not they are not. Where was Ryan on visa reform? We should need “reform” as what we have should work. Because we have been lawless for decades, it’s exploiting the American people to claim the American people are exploiting aliens. So horribly dishonest.

  • Geo

    If Ryan chooses to keep this up especially while holding hands with the commie Gutierrez, he is going to end up on the same glide path that Rubio has started on.

    • Geo, I think he’s already there. We watched Ryan be muzzled (or choose to keep quiet) about so many outrages, he can only hope to have presidential aspirations in his own mine.

  • Richard

    I am almost glad that Romney-Ryan did not get elected, the more I learn about them both. What about separation of church and state. He can tithe all he wants but not carry that over to politics. I am running out of people to support for any office.

    • Richard, I often feel the same until I tally up the list of Obama abuses, and know that while our government wouldn’t have been as constitutional as we know they should be, it would be far more so than what we have now.

  • Although I was born as a catholic now I claim I’m agnostic btw this thing with the illegals shouldn’t be a question of religion or believe…

    • dddfizz, compassion is one thing, lawlessness is another.

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  • I was having a good day until this. 🙂

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  • physicsnut

    i have disliked Ryan for a while –
    and now dislike Reid and his conspiratorial pals
    CSPAN just started a HERITAGE discussion of the Filibuster rule. In the opening remarks, the guy referred to an article in Mother Jones – jan 9th, about some meeting that included SEIU and others strategerizing about a ‘progressive’ transformation, and one of the TOP items was getting rid of the Filibuster.
    So Filthy Harry did not come up with this just now – it was already in the works.

    here it is:

    Revealed: The Massive New Liberal Plan to Remake American Politics
    A month after President Obama won reelection, America’s most powerful liberal groups met to plan their next moves. Here’s what they talked about.

    —By Andy Kroll
    Wed Jan. 9, 2013 4:06 AM PST

    It was the kind of meeting that conspiratorial conservative bloggers dream about.

    that sure is a heck of a way to begin an article !!!!

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