John McCain Border Attitude: Constitutent a Liar and “Wrong” – Remember McCains Iowa 2007 Muslim Comparison?

John McCain had a testy Townhall last night in Phoenix and things exploded as they often do when illegal aliens are the topic in Arizona. The real message of residents is getting lost in what is being referred to as a “joke,” about McCain being “in bed” with Ted Kennedy when they tried to pass the 2007 Shamnesty bill. Don’t be distract with that distraction – the real issue was “build the dang fence.” Residents made their points well. Keith Smith, who made the Kennedy remark apparently tread too heavily on McCain and McCain called him a liar and told him he was “wrong.”

Keith Smith, Arizona Townhall

Keith Smith, Arizona Townhall

MCCAIN: Again sir, you’re not telling these people the truth. They wash our…they mow our lawns, they care for our babies…they clean…they wash our…that’s what those people do sir, so you’re wrong again.

Someone, and I think it’s Keith Smith says:

cut off their welfare and they’ll go back

Mediate is also quoting McCain saying in the 75 minute Townhall:

“There are 11 million people living here illegally,” he said. “We are not going to get enough buses to deport them.”


Some audience members shouted out their disapproval.

One man yelled that only guns would discourage illegal immigration. Another man complained that illegal immigrants should never be able to become citizens or vote. A third man said illegal immigrants were illiterate invaders who wanted free government benefits.

McCain urged compassion. “We are a Judeo-Christian nation,” he said.

In an Iowa townhall as a presidential candidate in 2007, when McCain was trying to ram through his Shamnesty bill co-sponsored with Ted Kennedy, the Arizona Senator, with a hot-headed attitude, compared the unfortunate illegals in this country to the poor Muslims in France “relegated to ghettos” who had “risen up and burned cars in France….” McCain’s point was that the French Muslims had been mistreated, rose up against intolerance and McCain finished with “I don’t want that in the suburbs of America.

In Iowa, it got worse. He told the crowd in France the situation was so bad the French police could not enter some area in some cities – as though American police, and American citizens, are on the same wavelength as the French. Outrageous.

Here’s the LaMar, Iowa exchange, June 2, 2007:

He asked McCain why the U.S. couldn’t execute large-scale deportations, as he had heard they did in France and other countries.

McCain fired back:

“In case you hadn’t noticed, the thousands of people who have been relegated to ghettos have risen up and burned cars in France,” McCain said. “They’ve got huge problems in France. They have tremendous problems. The police can’t even go into certain areas in the suburbs of Paris. I don’t want that in the suburbs of America.” Source:

I don’t understand how McCain continues to be re-elected when he is so often opposed on the most important issues to Arizonans – illegal aliens.

John McCain on Current Amnesty Legislation (video)

  • McCain is a Republican in name only (RINO). He should change his allegiance to the Democrats where he not only belongs, but will fit in very well.

    • findalis, he can’t win as a Democrat. It’s a big problem for him.

  • Ken

    This is a decent site, but I just need to say it, McCain is an ASSHOLE!
    I have a large contingent in my family from the Philippines. Members of that family have been waiting years to get wives and husbands reunited, Mothers and Fathers to be reunited with children waiting so long as to be missing the children growing up. Why you ask? Because of Illegal Immigrants. My relatives are doing it legally, I have advised them that maybe they should go to mexico and cross illegaly, they won’t. They say they don’t want a “Stain” on them their first day here.
    If they can find all of our guns, they can find eleven million illegals. This issue is so old. These people need deportation and then to come through the system per our laws. This would instill a new respect for the United States around the world over night. We would become respectable. Why you ask? Because we are then demanding it, and deserving it!
    I know all the people in my family who have come here do not have a lot of marketable skills. They would certainly love to mow lawns, clean homes, etc., all the jobs ASSHOLE McCain wants to reserve for the illegal immigrants. Immigrants who’s very first act in our country was to break its laws. Oh and BTW, my relatives are also somewhat impoverished and would very much like to feed their families and give them a better life in America.
    John McCain, just shut up and leave the Auditorium please.

    • Ken, you can say it here. We all feel it. Great comment Ken. I know this is a very emotional issue for you who are living through this with your family. I think everyone in that Townhall meeting agrees with you, as do I, and my family is not involved. Thanks for stopping by and commenting.

  • Just never been a big fan of McCain.. I’m so tired of him and his liberal politics.. or wanting to just get along.. Screw getting along.. It’s time the conservatives of this country united against people like this man.

    • David Lemon, we just can’t figure out how to do it. The bottom line is, it will probably take a third party and a few decades before we are on solid ground. Think about a new party with new power grabs among people we don’t know. Sigh.

  • I remember the last shamnesty push of Misters, McCain, Kennedy, Bush, Graham, Specter, Kyl, Cornyn and a few others. I contacted every Senator at the time an remember the report that both sides of the debate hated the legislation and nearly melted down the phone systems in DC. I also fought shamnesty that year on a local level and as it turns out the local laws became toothless. Fortunately, shamnesty failed that year.

    We need to do whatever it we did then once again… and more. This scam must fail once again. There should be no discussion of ‘paths to citizenship’ until our borders are secure by everyone’s assessment. The best thing we can do it make conditions for illegals unbearable so they self-deport. Open borders supporters suggest it is not possible to do that. They are wrong. During the Arizona push for SB 1070 reports indicated many illegals were leaving the US expecting a backlash against their presence in America illegally. We need to keep the pressure up.

    At the very least we must ‘primary’ POLS who support shamnesty. And BTW, I don’t view Arizona as having a population that rejects illegal immigration. That’s how John McCain continues to get re-elected. (I’ll stop now before I really get cranky)

    • Hi Stanford! I was thinking the same thing. How can we do this the same way we did in 2007-2008? I don’t think it will be done. They wear us down, and after losing the election the Republican leadership thinks we to bribe people for their vote. I think it’s a done deal this time.

      I see you and I are both talking about Jeff Sessions today. He’s the one who gave us the 20 Loopholes in the Senate immigration bill last time. Now he’s saying nothing much has changed. I posted those 20 loopholes. If we ever get the new bill to look at (which I doubt) it will be interesting to compare.

      Got all excited, thinking you had turned comments back on, but you haven’t.

      You can get cranky here anytime:-)

  • This push for amnesty coupled with proposed sequester cuts to the Border Patrol could make the border areas downright dangerous (as if they’re not now…).

    • Velcro, your comment went to spam for some reason. Sorry about that. These are mean people we’re dealing with and they want control of a mean area by neutering the elected officials in the state. It’s a crock.

  • The Low Information voters keep voting for McCain in Arizona.

    • Woodsterman LIV = stupid?

  • Maggie,

    McCain got re-elected this past cycle for one single reason. Sarah Palin. Following the birth of the TEA Party movement, JD Hayworth was rocking and actually LED McCain substantially. Following her endorsement and campaign appearance – Hayworth dropped like a bullet infected moose on an Alaska mountain and was doomed.

    Of course – prior to that – like the rest of the conservative movement, AZ tolerated McCain because of his consistency on pro-Life matters and respect for his service and POW service. And no one was REALLY paying attention that much. But TEA changed all that – and especially with his coddling of Muslims/attacks on Bachmann – I’ve been praying that Palin finally realizes she over repaid her loyalty debt and now needs to start condemning a guy who is our own Benedict Arnold.

    • Geo

      I hate to disagree with you on that reason why McCain got reelected last time, it wasn’t anything to do with Sarah Palin endorsement or appearance.

      J.D. was exposed for being a rather large hypocrite when his infomercial was exposed. Mr Small Gubermint, doing a ad telling people to apply for Gov’t handouts nursing off the teet that he was supposedly against.

      And there was more than one:

      This is when his campaign started dropping like a rock and ensured another six for McLame. JD was exposed as just another entrenched, party hypocrite who would do anything to get elected.

      • The infomercial was nothing and came well after Palin had thrown support to McCain and sucked the air out. Here is the Real Clear Tracking poll info –

        Hayworth had wiped out 17 points from McCain’s lead (and internals showed it was almost tied) in mid March. Because of the Hayworth campaign and the result of advertising, Arizonians were finally putting into perspective the campaign “image” versus the reality. Almost half (finally) called McCAin a “moderate.”

        Palin started stumping by the end of the month and stopped ALL of Hayworth’s momentum. McCain’s advisers (including Karl Rove’s group if I’m not mistaken) trumped up Hayworth’s infomercial made long before JD had educated himself politically. (I get so tired of people using 20 year old information to try and indicate who a person is TODAY. – ALL of us become more educated and change our views). Hayworth was certainly not perfect. Who knows? He might have ended up like a Pat Toomey turncoat against TEA values. But no, Hayworth was not a “hypocrite” the way McCain was – claiming he was conservative and not only approving of Muslim Brotherhood infiltration in our government – but helping to open the doors for it. McCain has been on a number of “Gangs” against conservatives including tax cuts and more – far outweighing the “hypocrite” label.

        • Geo

          Anyone who couldn’t see that what Sarah did was just reciprocal from her selection as VP, is just blind. She was just being loyal. It contributed, but wasn’t the major factor. I have never, been a McCain fan, he has always been a died in the wool rino. I’m also not a fan of Rove, especially his latest brainstorm. They are part and parcel the problem the party is facing. The are party rino’s and elitists.

          On the other hand regarding JD, I was a huge fan of. His problem was if you decide to go after the king, you had better make sure you finish him off, not just wound him. He had numerous missteps in that primary by the time the infomercial rolled out, he was toast.

          McCain’s betrayal regarding the illegal immigration issue is legendary, somehow the voters in Arizona keep buying his crap on it. Why I’ll never know.

          Calling for building the “dang fence”, as you’re passing out legal status cards is going to come back and bite us in the ass, big time and won’t get us not one more Latino vote.

  • cjmartel

    Let us not forget that McCain was a co-sponsor of the NDAA, as far as I’m concerned he’s nothing more than a traitor, throw this bum out!!!

    • cjmartel, oh yes he was a co-sponsor. In one of my posts on the NDAA I offered this reminder of his further traitorous legislation:

      “FLASHBACK: Go back to April 2010 when Senator John McCain in his S. 3081 titled Enemy Belligerent Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act of 2010. S. 3081, which did not become law, proposed this:


      An individual, including a citizen of the United States, determined to be an unprivileged enemy belligerent under section 3(c)(2) in a manner which satisfies Article 5 of the Geneva ConventionRelative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War may be detained without criminal charges and without trial for the duration of hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners in which the individual has engaged, or which the individual has purposely and materially supported, consistent with the law of war and any authorization for the use of military force provided by Congress pertaining to such hostilities.”

      Throw the bum out. I hope someone worthy is running next time. He’ll stay there as long as allowed to.

  • PolitJim and Geo, I’ll leave it you two to argue the merits of why McCain wins (money has something to do with it). I know I was very unhappy with Palin’s endorsement. I understood it was loyalty, but she only needed to think back after the election in 2008, when McCain was asked if he would support her run for President (she was very popular then) and he said he didn’t know. He allowed everything that happened to her, to happen to her, from staff to press.

    As I said somewhere here, I would have voted for Hayworth if I could have. I believe most politicians have made many mistakes over the years. Everyone was routinely voting for spending (except Jim DeMint), but I do believe many of those who once were not conservative in the way we think of it today, could and would be so today. They’ve learned too, and we have to admit, we haven’t demanded constitutionality from our pols in decades – until now – at least we’re trying to demand it.