Gen. Carter Ham Relieved While on Duty Preparing to Defend Benghazi?

U.S. Navy Admiral Charles Gaouette was reportedly relieved of his AFRICOM Command for some reason. Some are theorizing he ignored  Barack Obama’s order to “stand down” in the Benghazi attack. The rest of the story that we know is true, is that U.S. Army General Carter Ham decided to ignore the “stand down” order. Gaouette was preparing to “assist and provide intelligence” for Ham’s forces planning to defend the Benghazi Consulate and Annex – read that as a question. According to the story, within a minute after General Ham made the decision to step in anyway, he was relieved of his Command by General Rodrieguz, who was Ham’s second-in-command. The poster refers to this comment from Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta:

General Carter Ham

“(The) basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place,” Panetta told Pentagon reporters. “And as a result of not having that kind of information, the commander who was on the ground in that area, Gen. Ham, Gen. Dempsey and I felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation.”

It is important to note that this information is coming from Tiger Droppings, a message board. The poster, Ambassador, on October 26th at 9:45 pm recounts hearing the above (my paraphrase) from a trustworthy person inside the military. He/she then reports this:

President Barack Obama will nominate Army Gen. David Rodriguez to succeed Gen. Carter Ham as commander of U.S. Africa Command and Marine Lt. Gen. John Paxton to succeed Gen. Joseph Dunford as assistant commandant of the Marine Corps, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta announced Thursday. Source: Stars and Stripes

So while we do not know what is true and what is not, we know that Ham has been relieved of duty and Obama has nominated General Rodriguez, who relieved Ham, to take his place and to be confirmed by the U.S. Senate. We also know that Gaouette is no longer in command of the USS Stennis Carrier Strike Group.

NavyTimes.com reports that, “Vice Admiral John Miller, commander Naval Forces Central Command, made the decision to reassign the commander of Carrier Strike Group 3, even though it’s deployed to the Middle East.”

NBC News interviewed Neal Zerbe, a retired Navy Captain, who says, “The particular commander being relieved, and you know translating that to just moving him back to a continental U.S. base while the investigation continues, is unlike anything I’ve ever seen before.” Source: MyNorthwestcom

Gateway Pundit is quoting Ace of Spades saying Gaouette’s removal is likely not due to Benghazi? So was Gaouette preparing to assist General Ham? Was the USS Stennis even in the area? Maybe not. Read a detailed discussion at Strategic Thought. Please REMEMBER, this story is NOT CONFIRMED. 

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  • frank

    Fits with this too:
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/10/30/Facebook-Censors-Navy-SEALS-To-Protect-Obama-on-Benghazi-Gate

    This country is in deep ___! There are too many big money people with liberal persuasion all over this country, ready to take it down. Starting from the White House, then in the Senate, in the Supreme Court, many governors, like that of NJ who’ll push for Obama, and who camouflage as “conservative”, mayors, like that of NYC, and, finally, down to many citizens all across this nation who fear losing their governmental amenities.

    We’re up s__t’s creek!

  • http://mainfo.blogspot.com/ Opus#6@AmericanPerspective

    I must disagree with Frank. Well, first agree. We have huge challenges. But take heart. We outnumber them. You will see on November 6th. Romney will win in a landslide. And these conniving leftists can go pound sand.

    Hopefully President Romney can untangle the mess that Obama has made of our armed forces and command structure.

    • frank

      Opus – I wish I could be that optimistic about the real change this country needs.

      In my humble opinion, both candidates, Hussein Obama and Romney, serve the same remote-control masters who comprise a very wealthy and very powerful oligarchy applying a stranglehold on America and on the world.

      This oligarchy has practically no entity strong enough to thwart their nefarious intent – to feudalize the world.

      The only good thing about a Romney win is, it buys us more time to plan an escape, or breath a reprieve.

      If Hussein Obama wins, it means the oligarchy is desperate to work things out quickly. They can then manage the win by the firm they partner with, the firm that bought sole control of vote counting. They will thus steal the election. Or, if they feel they can bide their time, or wish to avoid the risk of an overly abusive takeover, they’ll just go with their slower horse, Romney.

      Romney could so easily win – were he to attack Hussein Obama on any of the following significant events that every voter would understand as significant:

      For releasing Guantanamo Bay detainees, one who even pleaded guilty to killing a U.S. soldier;

      His repeated voting record for sanctioning the murder of babies who escaped an abortion attempt;

      His association with America haters, American convicts, and even foreigners known to be on the FBI list of terrorists;

      His “Fast and Furious” scandal; Or his “Libyan Embassy” coverup.

      His association with America haters, American convicts, and even foreigners known to be on the FBI list of terrorists;

      His dismantling of American technology’s crown jewel, NASA, turning it into a Muslim propaganda agency;

      His shameless taking od credit for killing Osama Bin Laden and the quick sea burial;

      His whitewashing the Jihad war and the “terrorist” threat – all while posting TSA agents to invade our privacy at every airport in the U.S.

      Or how about the idiocy of blaming a murder on a video clip that was viewed on Youtube by twenty people, whereas a Batman movie, in which 23 people met their death a few months ago by a Batman impersonator, was never blamed by this mindless president.

      For presenting a FALSE birth certicate, as Sheriff Arpaio and others demonstrated.

      For letting 4 Americans die, as he says, “No American will be left behind”.
      … the list is too long to enumerate, the abuses too many to count – by this arrogant criminal. He shows wreckless disregard and dishonesty, as he lies so easily between smiley lips. He lies as easily as he breathes.

      And he remains arrogant – because he knows full well he cannot be touched by his rival who has the same masters as he, only Romney playacts a different role. Romney will never come out swinging – even as Obuma aids and abets the terrorists!

      I like Romney as a person very much. I just think he too has people he needs to answer to.

  • http://conservativesonfire.wordpress.com Jim at Conservatives on Fire

    Other than Fox, the media is not covering the Benghazi scamdal. We bloggers have to keep this story alive. We owe it to the brabe men who died serving our country.

    • http://www.traveLightgame.com lj carolyne

      Obama has committed Treason a hundred times over times a hundred, from the get go – Obama has to get going, NOW! It can’t happen soon enough.
      BTW Clint Eastwood will be on Hannity tonight.

  • http://antzinpantz.com/kns/ BobF

    It won’t be long before we find out exactly where the USS Stennis Battle Group was located on 9/11. There are thousands of sailors who were there and know their location and what they could have done that day.

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  • http://www.traveLightgame.com lj carolyne

    What needs to take place is the Main Stream Media start reporting the truth about the ‘evil doer’ in the WH. How can We The People demand that be done?

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  • http://ifyouseekpeace.wordpress.com/ Yos / Si Vis Pacem

    Cheers Maggie.
    Pray for a solid mandate victory on Tuesday.

    • http://www.traveLightgame.com lj carolyne

      We are in agreement on that prayer! God Bless America in Christ and rebuke the evil Muslim wanna be dictator, Obama, in the powerful name of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior.

  • http://gurlandgirlproductions.com Joey Gurl

    Even Fox hasn’t covered this story about General Ham and Admiral Gaouette. Why ?
    This whole Benghazi fiasco goes so much deeper than we can even imagine.
    We as Americans MUST stand up and demand answers. How clever of the Obama
    administration to have hearings on this matter AFTER the election ! We are all being
    ” hoodwinked” by this president. Time to wake up before it’s too late.