Military in Iraq Used 70M Rounds of Ammo Annually: DHS Ordered 750M Rounds in One Month – Washington DC Police Order 600000 Hollow Points

We’ve seen our Government buy a lot of ammunition lately and we have speculated ‘why?’ Is this routine? Do we do this every year? Are the purchase amounts in-line with what has been happening since the Bush Administration and September 11, 2001 – which changed everything? We don’t know. Is the Government buying up ammo so a shortage occurs for you and me? Are we the targets? We don’t know. We don’t know why even the Social Security Agency is armed, while our Border Agents patrol with bean bag guns. One Retired Army Major General says the Military in Iraq used a mere 70 MILLION rounds of ammunition per year. “Compare that with the 750 million rounds of hollow point bullets that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) ordered in March.” Maybe we are getting some history after all, and keep in mind, these numbers do not include the purchases of the Pentagon/Department of Defense.

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The Washington, D.C. police have ordered 600,000 rounds of Hollow Points. This is the Police Department. Add that to the other armed agencies in that city, and if Americans want to stand on the steps of Capitol Hill as the TEA Party did on the day and evening that ObamaCare was passed – well, they might not be able to do so.

The Department of State needs “Mechanical Breaching Tools.”

John Roller at Keys to Liberty found that the Department of Homeland Security purchased, and has already received, twelve 50-caliber machine guns. He provided a link to the site homepage but I didn’t find the machine guns. My eyes glaze over when I’m looking at a lot of numbers and decimals and abbreviations. I’m not that familiar with weaponry. He found it and I have no problem believing it.

If you go to the FedBiz link and do a search on Homeland Security, you will find that they have already purchased 12- 50 caliber machine guns and the ammunition to go with them…

The post didn’t specify how much ammunition because it was already a ‘done deal’. This is ‘heavy duty’ stuff, at close range a 50 caliber will penetrate 2 inches of aluminum, 32 inches of pine and 21 inches of wet earth. []

Roller found that Homeland Security, at least in once instance, issued separate bids for “training” ammo and for “duty” ammo. So as we watch the number of rounds purchased reach about 1 BILLION, and NOT DESIGNATED for the various arms of the US Military, isn’t it more than a little scary? I call again for Congress – our elected representatives, to tell us what is going on.

The Examiner:

On Friday the government stated that the hollow point bullets it has procured are “standard issue” and that they are used to train security agents used by each of the various federal agencies…

When this reporter first heard the government’s explanation for the hollow point bullets, the warning bells immediately rang indicating a cover up. As every gun owner knows if they are serious about developing and maintaining their shooting skills, the type of bullets used for practice at the firing range are normally different from the ammunition one would use when getting the firearm set to be used in the event of a home invasion or other situations in which one’s life is in mortal danger.

Firing range bullets are much less expensive and are not designed for the day to day use of the gun for maximum self protection. One uses the more expensive variety, such as hollow point bullets, for real-life danger.

Thus, immediately this reporter knew that when the government claimed that its agencies had purchased multimillions of rounds of hollow point bullets for “practice and training” at the firing range, something was amiss. Most citizens are likely unaware that such ammo is not used for practice and will accept the government’s explanation at face value. This is in all likelihood what the Feds are counting on.

In a previous article I wrote about the purchase of hollow points, and said they were illegal in the use of warfare. I got called-out soundly on that, and was further told the purpose of using hollow points is that they expand inside a body and do not exit, keeping by-standers safer.

Retired Army Major General Jerry Curry said these procurements and the Government’s explanation for them, doesn’t pass the smell test (see Examiner link above).

Hollow point bullets are so lethal that the Geneva Convention does not allow their use on the battle field in time of war. Hollow point bullets don’t just stop or hurt people, they penetrate the body, spread out, fragment and cause maximum damage to the body’s organs. Death often follows….

 I fear that Congress won’t take these ammunition purchases seriously until they are all led from Capitol Hill in handcuffs. Why buy all this ammunition unless you plan to use it. Unknown to Congress, Does DHS plan to declare war on some country? Shouldn’t Congress hold hearings on why the Administration is stockpiling this ammunition all across the nation? How will it be used; what are the Administration’s plans?

About the past history of purchases, Examiner writer Anthony Martin writes (see Examiner link above):

In addition, Curry noted that during the Iraq War the U.S. military used 70 million rounds of ammunition per year. Compare that with the 750 million rounds of hollow point bullets that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) ordered in March. And then it further ordered another 750 million rounds of various types of ammunition, some of which can penetrate walls.

Natural News reports that all contract purchases for ammo has reached 1.4 BILLION rounds. I cannot confirm it but when you look at websites, it’s not difficult to believe it.

More from Keys to Liberty (linked above):

…they are purchasing Explosives as well, and have contracts out for Training Courses. Look what the course includes: “Counter Terrorist Search courses will include: components of Improvised Explosive Devices, Actions on a Find, relevant case studies (current threat), theory and practical exercises on vehicle search, route search, area search, venue search, and simple indirect fire surveys”. This order is also headed for Artesia, New Mexico, (mentioned in the above link) it is for various types of ammunition

Looking through the Homeland Security bid site, I see numerous smaller ammo solicitations. This one calls for multiple contracts for 1,000 rounds annually of “Commercial Leaded Training Ammunition,” guaranteed for a 4 years period. We also order 9MM “blank” ammo for training.

The IntelHub reports “In November 2011 the FBI posted a request to the website for up to 100,000,000 rounds of hollow point ammunition.” Also interesting, the FBI “reserves the right” to fixed price indefinite-delivery indefinite-quantity type contract.” Ain’t it great to be Government? Remember the National Defense Resources Preparedness Act (NDRP) – they can confiscate all of America’s resources, including our waters, and they don’t have to pay you for it. In the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) legislation, there were provisions that no monies can be used for advocating FOR gun control. The NRA claims Obama issued a ‘Signing Statement’ overriding that Second Amendment safeguard.

Disclaimer: I cannot vouch for the the graphic above being a real Newsweek cover, but I see it numerous places, including at Veteran’s Today.

I’m not alone in calling for Congress to PAY ATTENTION and start talking. Many thanks to Laura Alcorn, the National Director of America Conservative2Conservative for her hard work and tips provided for this article. Also thanks to Before It’s News and to for the second photo. Read PumabyDesign – Motto of the Progressive Elitists “When all else fails, just shoot them.”

Background and Related:

Judge Napolitano: No Free Speech in Presence of Secret Service 

Obama Signing Statement: Can Use Omnibus Funding for Gun Control

National Defense Authorization Act is Law: Rand Paul on Patriot Act and American Liberty

National Defense Authorization Act – Rendition – Detaining American’s. The Reality?

Social Security Administration Buys 174,000 Hollow Point Bullets: Border Patrol Armed with Bean Bags

Government Grabbing Water Again: Sues New Mexico for Water Rights

DHS Millions of Rounds of Ammo: BulletProof CheckPoint Orders

UN Arms Trade Treaty to Control Weapons: UN Refuses to Define Terrorism

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  • Fortunately government is slow to act. We have less than three months before the presidential election in November. With any luck at all Romney/Ryan wins and we can get back to being the America most of us remember. Otherwise my guns and bible will not be competitive against millions of government hollow point rounds. But if need be I will exhaust my supply in the final act of defiance.

    Hey Barry, up your’s.

    • Hey Stanford. Ditto every word! How ya been?

    • I’m with you – ‘Hey Barry, up your’s!’ Too bad Obummer didn’t get a SS# chip put up his nose he keeps stuck up in the air, he’s not going to breathe, if is he keeps this BS up. The Hell you say about the 575 new laws. We The People are done with this sum-bitch in the WH. ‘Capiche’

  • Great post. I do not trust Obama and can only hope that this has nothing to do with his October surprise or the fact that the malignant narcissist is a sore loser.

    • Thanks Puma. Obama is a sore loser every day. I’m hoping the GOP has plans at the polls to stop what is going to happen. They’d best be ready for conflict because we are going to have it.

  • David

    At this point after all that we have learned before and after 2008 do we really have to guess or wonder about the motives from any current administration department? It’s all but a foregone conclusion what they are all up to and I’m confident anyone who is awake intuitively knows what comes next, regardless of the outcome of November 2012. They’ll do anything to win and do worse if they lose. Knowing of these ammo purchases is enlightening enough but does anyone care to know about the accountability of all of this ammo? Let me just speculate that without transparent and full disclosure of the who, what, when, where and why of and for the life of all of this ammo, how do we know who will be the ultimate end user? Fast and furious is but only one tiny example of their big plans. What other nefarious plots might they have with other foreign or domestic political factions that they feel would serve their agendas? Worst case scenario is that they have as part of their plan an attempt to start a civil war of some kind. Do they supply the ammo to certain political factions (OWS, NBP, Mexican Drug Cartels, or others) in the hopes for massive violent sweeps across America? And then with FEMA and the Patriot Act behind them they come to the rescue? There is no plausible scenario where this goes well for The People or the Constitution. It’s just the absolutely wrong type of ammo and in much too large of quantities for these departments.
    But the more important question is where is the oversight, checks and balances? Which Representative will convene a Congressional hearing on this? Do we have a Constitutional balance of power and limited government where The People retain the power or not? Without any of our Representatives doing their sworn duty in acting on this relevant news obviously we do not. This is one of the most clear indications of abuse of power that is right in front of us and I expect our elected officials to follow their sworn duty to uphold the Constitution and not let these departments have this ammo. If they want to give it to the U.S. Border Patrol and also make this ammo available to American citizen lawful gun owners for their 2ND Amendment rights I’m all for it. Otherwise they have no business having it.

    • Well said.

    • David, our answers should be coming from Congress. They owe the answers and they owe us appropriate action. We have to find a way to push this issue.

  • The military used 70M rounds in Iraq. Yeah, but there are330 million of us, Maggie. Time to start asking some serious questions.

    • Jim, my point was, if the military only used 70M rounds, what are these agencies doing. Someone has it up to 5 bullets for every American. I thought I was asking hard questions:-) I’m waiting for answers that will never come.

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